Submitted by Grangersmith (not verified) on 7 September 2009 - 2:27pm.
I kind of understand why the poster was anon, when it comes down to he says/she says mud throwing, people tend to take sides, and someone usually gets scapegoated....I have no emotional or political investment in MI, in fact today was the first time I connected the house across the street from the library to anything...There is a sign outside of the house, and one time I was waiting in my car for someone, got tired waited outside my car and a guy drove in got out of his car proceeded to go into the house, and glared at me...It was strange and unfriendly, and I still wondered what was in that house...The guy could have smiled and started a conversation with me if he wondered why I dare to stand outside of my car across the street from this house...Talk about negative paranoia....(this was around a year ago) Anyway I have been involved in non profits, though
out the years, and the last involvement was with a grassroots non profit, that I worked very hard for...I ended up being scapegoated, accused of something, gang banged by political correctness, group lynched mentally...That was it for me, my career in any groups what so ever or involvement in anything ended voluntarily with that organization. I won't fight, work for or be affiliated with and for a cause when the people within the org, or who run the show, fight, lie, back stab, steal conceal and scapegoat to keep their little power kingdoms..... After I left, things that I knew about but ignored, things about the group that were not kosher, legal or democratic were brought to the fore by fellow members, who for some time had been questioning the structure and the honesty of the Director...For many reasons, one being that the people who brought the dysfunction, potential embezzlement into the light were lambasted, lied about and scapegoated by the local liberal media and affiliated groups, many felt threatened and harassed and backed down, stepped away, quit the org..Coming out of the closet with issues actually got them bullied by the good open minded liberal community of Olympia, who banded in unity against them without knowing the facts...No one said, hey lets listen to what these people have to say, without attacking or threatening them...I thought about going to some local papers, anonymously talking to someone from WIP, but then I had totally disassociated myself from it, months before this happened, would easily be dismissed as someone who held a grudge, and was getting even, so I decided it was best to let it go...I was in no mood to get victimized scapegoat or hurt over this group, any group ever for that matter, anymore, it's not worth it for me...The truth of the matter, the real issues were never even examined by the local lib community....So please don't tell me that whatever is happening within MI is totally the fault of Pirate, who ever he is....Give me a break, where there is smoke there is fire, and it's pretty obvious that instead of working this out, MI is intent on scapegoating Pirate from the liberal community in general...I don't know any of the players in this typical political drama that plays out in all organizations from girl scouts, churches to our local government...But I see the structure of this is the same as any, us against them mentality...This is a core problem with humanity, the reasons for war greed hate etc...Why don't the parties involved ask the non profit, Dispute Resolution services for some support, and instead of throwing out your opinions, or collective scapegoating opinions, honestly take a look at yourselves, your org, each other and ask honestly as to what really is going on here...Is there any positive thing to learn, can you not scapegoat others to win or to be right?????HuH??????? You (all of you collectively) are speaking so loud, I Can't Hear YOU....Even within progressive liberal groups, there is group think, where the sheep are unwilling to speak out for something they are all secretly thinking about on one level or another...Some don't think, they are there to be cool progressive posers, and will go along with anything, some are getting credits from the college or university they attend on internships...All different agendas, all have a certain self investment in belonging...One observation is that it appears that Pirate was or is a natural organizer, leader type personality, sometimes when two unofficial leaders are in a org, a battle for turf is on, and the wiliest coyote wins...Even without knowing something at all about MI, I smell something fishy, a director who is not in this country, not in WA, no local director, and no board for fear of power struggles? Who is so defensive/paranoid that they consider a board as being destructive to the organization? That sounds a lot like the Bush administration who did not want any outside accountability or checks and balances outside of his political allies...The big Attorney General Scandal is an example of this too....Financial records, transparency???? I don't know really, I am just cynical from my own experiences...Some people use non profits to make a living for themselves, they really don't care about the people they are serving or the message, it's a way to gain community self worth, and make a living too....But it's not a non profit, it's a self serving, for personal profit with little kings, queen, courts rulers in their little kingdom....What makes you any different from Bush or Obama or the spies with agenda's to discredit your organization, really...Be Honest...
Political disruption of MI, and Anon comments
I kind of understand why the poster was anon, when it comes down to he says/she says mud throwing, people tend to take sides, and someone usually gets scapegoated....I have no emotional or political investment in MI, in fact today was the first time I connected the house across the street from the library to anything...There is a sign outside of the house, and one time I was waiting in my car for someone, got tired waited outside my car and a guy drove in got out of his car proceeded to go into the house, and glared at me...It was strange and unfriendly, and I still wondered what was in that house...The guy could have smiled and started a conversation with me if he wondered why I dare to stand outside of my car across the street from this house...Talk about negative paranoia....(this was around a year ago) Anyway I have been involved in non profits, though
out the years, and the last involvement was with a grassroots non profit, that I worked very hard for...I ended up being scapegoated, accused of something, gang banged by political correctness, group lynched mentally...That was it for me, my career in any groups what so ever or involvement in anything ended voluntarily with that organization. I won't fight, work for or be affiliated with and for a cause when the people within the org, or who run the show, fight, lie, back stab, steal conceal and scapegoat to keep their little power kingdoms..... After I left, things that I knew about but ignored, things about the group that were not kosher, legal or democratic were brought to the fore by fellow members, who for some time had been questioning the structure and the honesty of the Director...For many reasons, one being that the people who brought the dysfunction, potential embezzlement into the light were lambasted, lied about and scapegoated by the local liberal media and affiliated groups, many felt threatened and harassed and backed down, stepped away, quit the org..Coming out of the closet with issues actually got them bullied by the good open minded liberal community of Olympia, who banded in unity against them without knowing the facts...No one said, hey lets listen to what these people have to say, without attacking or threatening them...I thought about going to some local papers, anonymously talking to someone from WIP, but then I had totally disassociated myself from it, months before this happened, would easily be dismissed as someone who held a grudge, and was getting even, so I decided it was best to let it go...I was in no mood to get victimized scapegoat or hurt over this group, any group ever for that matter, anymore, it's not worth it for me...The truth of the matter, the real issues were never even examined by the local lib community....So please don't tell me that whatever is happening within MI is totally the fault of Pirate, who ever he is....Give me a break, where there is smoke there is fire, and it's pretty obvious that instead of working this out, MI is intent on scapegoating Pirate from the liberal community in general...I don't know any of the players in this typical political drama that plays out in all organizations from girl scouts, churches to our local government...But I see the structure of this is the same as any, us against them mentality...This is a core problem with humanity, the reasons for war greed hate etc...Why don't the parties involved ask the non profit, Dispute Resolution services for some support, and instead of throwing out your opinions, or collective scapegoating opinions, honestly take a look at yourselves, your org, each other and ask honestly as to what really is going on here...Is there any positive thing to learn, can you not scapegoat others to win or to be right?????HuH??????? You (all of you collectively) are speaking so loud, I Can't Hear YOU....Even within progressive liberal groups, there is group think, where the sheep are unwilling to speak out for something they are all secretly thinking about on one level or another...Some don't think, they are there to be cool progressive posers, and will go along with anything, some are getting credits from the college or university they attend on internships...All different agendas, all have a certain self investment in belonging...One observation is that it appears that Pirate was or is a natural organizer, leader type personality, sometimes when two unofficial leaders are in a org, a battle for turf is on, and the wiliest coyote wins...Even without knowing something at all about MI, I smell something fishy, a director who is not in this country, not in WA, no local director, and no board for fear of power struggles? Who is so defensive/paranoid that they consider a board as being destructive to the organization? That sounds a lot like the Bush administration who did not want any outside accountability or checks and balances outside of his political allies...The big Attorney General Scandal is an example of this too....Financial records, transparency???? I don't know really, I am just cynical from my own experiences...Some people use non profits to make a living for themselves, they really don't care about the people they are serving or the message, it's a way to gain community self worth, and make a living too....But it's not a non profit, it's a self serving, for personal profit with little kings, queen, courts rulers in their little kingdom....What makes you any different from Bush or Obama or the spies with agenda's to discredit your organization, really...Be Honest...